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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2013 20:11:11 GMT -5
I understand being hesitant to remove whip but keeping avg is pre-historic
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Post by Cincinnati Reds - Chris on Oct 9, 2013 21:41:48 GMT -5
We are against removing categories we have had for four years (Batting Average and WHIP) to add personal favorites. Pretty lame... I'm against adding any. And your thoughts on Losses for pitchers and K's for hitters? You seem content with those goofy categories. |
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Post by Arizona Diamondbacks on Oct 10, 2013 17:22:54 GMT -5
I like Reds' proposed categories.
It's not like anyone has been building their roster around a time when we were going to remove Ks and switch to SLG percentage. We're all on equal playing field here
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2014 8:19:54 GMT -5
Why not simply add SLG on the offensive side and BAA (batting average against) to the pitching categories, and leave everything else the same? The K category on offense always struck as a wasted stat, but it's already in place, so run with it.
If we eliminate any categories, dropping K's on the offense stats and Loses on the pitching from side would make the most sense.
But adding the two stats (one on each side helps) without dropping any categories would hopefully eliminate all the arguing over which stats or more relevant or more realistic, though trying to make the stats "realistic" in a league with 31 active roster stats is pretty absurd.
Importantly, if we drop Loses as a pitching category there is practically no disincentive for teams carrying 12 SP on their active rosters.
Much better to leave everything as is and add the SLG and BAA categories.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2014 8:48:45 GMT -5
Why not simply add SLG on the offensive side and BAA (batting average against) to the pitching categories, and leave everything else the same? The K category on offense always struck as a wasted stat, but it's already in place, so run with it. If we eliminate any categories, dropping K's on the offense stats and Loses on the pitching from side would make the most sense. But adding the two stats (one on each side helps) without dropping any categories would hopefully eliminate all the arguing over which stats or more relevant or more realistic, though trying to make the stats "realistic" in a league with 31 active roster stats is pretty absurd. That's probably the best way to go about tinkering with the stats (also I love the baa stat suggestion). Drop K's and L's and add slg and baa. Then reeval next year. Gives everybody an opportunity to slowly adjust to the changes. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2014 9:21:53 GMT -5
Importantly, if we drop LOSES as a pitching category, there is practically no disincentive for teams carrying 12 or more SP on their active rosters.
Much better to leave everything as is and add the SLG and BAA categories.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2014 11:02:04 GMT -5
But you're the only owner who has a problem with utilizing your roster to carry SPers
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2014 11:17:59 GMT -5
It's a flaw in the basic structure that should be corrected. And it's easily corrected by reducing active roster size or limiting the number of SP teams can carry on their MLB roster. Pretty simply to come up with a workable number...
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Post by BrewCrewGM on Mar 15, 2014 16:47:43 GMT -5
So do we officially have the categories set up?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2014 18:06:39 GMT -5
Are they not the same this year? I thought we said any change would be reflected in the 2015 season at the earliest.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2014 18:09:04 GMT -5
I've said it before though, really don't see a reason we are fixing something that's not broken. We've built teams around these cats for 4 years...
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Post by BrewCrewGM on Mar 15, 2014 18:46:19 GMT -5
I've said it before though, really don't see a reason we are fixing something that's not broken. We've built teams around these cats for 4 years... I agree with the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" saying, but these categories are broke. There's absolutely no point in having both hits & batting average and to have losses for pitchers. We really should go with what Chris proposed. Clearly better than what has been in place, and it looks like the admins agree with the new set-up as well, as long as Ks stay and the K/BB category is not implemented, which is fine with me. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2014 19:06:09 GMT -5
The season starts in a week. Nothing should be changing
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2014 19:21:51 GMT -5
The season starts in a week. Nothing should be changing This. We can't change the rules a week before the games start this season. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2014 19:53:56 GMT -5
What should be done is we should get an ideal categories setup and then create a 3 year plan to implement the changes.
What will get done...nothing....which I'm also OK with.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2014 19:54:29 GMT -5
What should not get done; implement new cats a week before games start
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Post by BrewCrewGM on Mar 15, 2014 21:22:38 GMT -5
What should be done is we should get an ideal categories setup and then create a 3 year plan to implement the changes. What will get done...nothing....which I'm also OK with. This is something that should take no longer than a year to implement... let alone three. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2014 21:36:19 GMT -5
What should be done is we should get an ideal categories setup and then create a 3 year plan to implement the changes. What will get done...nothing....which I'm also OK with. This is something that should take no longer than a year to implement... let alone three. The thing that keeps holding it back is "we've been building our rosters for 4 years according to these categories" and to be honest, i can respect that so, wrong again Brew, it should not be implemented overnight. |
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Post by BrewCrewGM on Mar 15, 2014 21:45:46 GMT -5
This is something that should take no longer than a year to implement... let alone three. The thing that keeps holding it back is "we've been building our rosters for 4 years according to these categories" and to be honest, i can respect that so, wrong again Brew, it should not be implemented overnight. Well, I don't respect that. Changing batting average to SLG % would have more of a positive impact than a negative one, and anyone who says they've been building a team solely around the fact that both batting average & hits will be two of the hitting categories are full of shit. There's absolutely no reason to have both hits & batting average implemented, and as far as I'm concerned OBA is an upgrade from WHIP. |
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Post by St. Louis Cardinals (Andrew) on Mar 15, 2014 22:05:14 GMT -5
I agree on the hitting categories but think OBA is a bit of a wank, if you think including HPBs are going to make a huge difference then I think you are kidding yourself.
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