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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2014 10:54:39 GMT -5
If I immediately place them in my minor league roster, can I make more than 13 picks?
I know we discussed this, but I don't remember the final ruling, and I can't search on my phone for the thread
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Post by WhiteSox on Nov 25, 2014 11:20:20 GMT -5
Yup
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Post by Cincinnati Reds - Chris on Nov 25, 2014 19:17:28 GMT -5
I didn't think that was the rule. Otherwise the 13 pick max, is a huge fallacy and should never be discussed.
I think the situation along what Rockies is thinking or you are is, if you traded your picks pre or during the draft and have empty Rookie Roster spots at the end of the draft you can select undrafted prospects at the conclusion of our draft and place them on your Rookie Roster.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2014 19:33:50 GMT -5
I thought it was a 13 rookie roster spot rule. So pick 14 would have to be placed in my 60 man MiLB Roster
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2014 19:51:55 GMT -5
I thought it was a 13 rookie roster spot rule. So pick 14 would have to be placed in my 60 man MiLB Roster I thought that was the last thing I read on this topic. If you have 14, 20, or however how many picks you could use them as long as you have or make room on your 60 MiLB roster.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2014 19:53:58 GMT -5
I thought it was a 13 rookie roster spot rule. So pick 14 would have to be placed in my 60 man MiLB Roster This will be really hard to search for but i also recall last year agreeing to eliminate the 13 pick max, largely bc of the way Reds was sort of losing value on A LOT of assets (his unused draft picks) and it just didn't seem right. Iirc what was said was in the upcoming draft (this draft) you could draft 73 players if you had the picks, MiLB and FYP roster spots to support it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2014 20:16:47 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2014 20:24:00 GMT -5
Somebody is about to be named to "The Search Committee"
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Post by BrewCrewGM on Nov 25, 2014 21:06:11 GMT -5
Was under the impression that we could have as many picks as we'd want but when it came down to moving them off the rookie roster at the ASB, we'd have to choose only as many as our MiLB roster would allow, depending on how many slots are open.
So hypothetically if I chose 20 guys and wanted to fit all 20 into my MiLB roster at the ASB but only have 10 spots open, I'd have to drop 10 guys from my MiLB roster. Or if ten of the draftees suck I'd just drop them instead and fit in the other ten draftees into the ten open slots on my MiLB roster.
Pretty sure we agreed on something like this months ago, but if we didn't, it should be the rule. Makes the most sense to me.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2014 21:15:05 GMT -5
I thought the rookie roster was capped at 13 and the extra picks had to be added to the 60 MiLB roster (also capped at 60) but either way I thought this wasn't going into effect until 2015?
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Post by BrewCrewGM on Nov 25, 2014 21:25:12 GMT -5
Rookie roster was capped, but I don't think it is anymore.
Again, the rookie roster dissolves at the All-Star break so at that time there are going to be a ton of drops id imagine.
And no I think these rules were due to go into effect immediately.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2014 21:39:29 GMT -5
Was under the impression that we could have as many picks as we'd want but when it came down to moving them off the rookie roster at the ASB, we'd have to choose only as many as our MiLB roster would allow, depending on how many slots are open. So hypothetically if I chose 20 guys and wanted to fit all 20 into my MiLB roster at the ASB but only have 10 spots open, I'd have to drop 10 guys from my MiLB roster. Or if ten of the draftees suck I'd just drop them instead and fit in the other ten draftees into the ten open slots on my MiLB roster. Pretty sure we agreed on something like this months ago, but if we didn't, it should be the rule. Makes the most sense to me. No
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2014 21:41:22 GMT -5
I thought the rookie roster was capped at 13 and the extra picks had to be added to the 60 MiLB roster (also capped at 60) but either way I thought this wasn't going into effect until 2015? Yes, but i was assuming it would be for this year's draft as the thread was made in July it's kind of a middle ground. I'll let the trio of power decide though. Since we're in the middle of a draft it might make sense to wait until next year's draft but again the big 3 can decide this one imo.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2014 21:44:49 GMT -5
Was under the impression that we could have as many picks as we'd want but when it came down to moving them off the rookie roster at the ASB, we'd have to choose only as many as our MiLB roster would allow, depending on how many slots are open... Maybe, I missed something but I was left with the impression after the 13 rookie spots were full the extra picks had to be immediately incorporated in the 60 roster and not wait until the ASB. Then again I wasn't here and may be making assumptions. It's the off-season and IMO now is the time to clarify things in question.
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Post by BrewCrewGM on Nov 25, 2014 21:47:45 GMT -5
Immediately incorporated into the 60? Why not just wait until the ASB?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2014 21:53:18 GMT -5
Immediately incorporated into the 60? Why not just wait until the ASB? Bc what was decided was you can have 73 minor leaguers (not including the IFA roster). 60 MiLB spots and 13 FYP spots. 13 can wait until the ASB.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2014 22:10:36 GMT -5
Immediately incorporated into the 60? Why not just wait until the ASB? According to the poll you were correct and it was the ASB, but that doesn't defeat the purpose of having limits on the number of MiLB players anyone can have. If we're doing that then just do away with the 60 MiLB limit and have no limits so everyone has a chance to add more prospects. That or not allow trading of the players taken in the draft until after the ASB and on the 60 MiLB roster. This is allowing another loophole to allow some team more assets then the others. Doesn't make sense that some teams can have more players then others because of trades or whatever reason. If some team can trade for picks to carry and extra amount of players the other teams should be within the rules to add additional FA What am I missing here?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2014 22:20:55 GMT -5
Immediately incorporated into the 60? Why not just wait until the ASB? According to the poll you were correct and it was the ASB, but that doesn't defeat the purpose of having limits on the number of MiLB players anyone can have. If we're doing that then just do away with the 60 MiLB limit and have no limits so everyone has a chance to add more prospects. That or not allow trading of the players taken in the draft until after the ASB and on the 60 MiLB roster. This is allowing another loophole to allow some team more assets then the others. Doesn't make sense that some teams can have more players then others because of trades or whatever reason. If some team can trade for picks to carry and extra amount of players the other teams should be within the rules to add additional FA What am I missing here? According to the initial poll Brew was right but if you read down a few responses Cards and DBacks both agree as long as 73 is the max MiLB'ers you can have (before the IFA roster). And given that myself, cards, and mariners are on the rules committee....and tim and cards are part of the trifecta that run the league, that's the rule. 73. Brew is just trying to exploit a non-existent loophole....again.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2014 22:24:40 GMT -5
Immediately incorporated into the 60? Why not just wait until the ASB? According to the poll you were correct and it was the ASB, but that doesn't defeat the purpose of having limits on the number of MiLB players anyone can have. What am I missing here? Okay, with the answer from TRC Yanks I guess I'm on track. I found Andrews post down the thread... Post by St. Louis Cardinals on Jul 10, 2014 at 2:04am I'm a yes on the condition that you have the empty roster slot available to put that player. IFA roster max = 10 Rookie roster max = 13 MILB roster max = 60 If you have 20 players on your MILB roster you should then be able to use 53 draft picks (40 MILB + 13 Rookie) if you have the vacant slots. If your IFA & MILB rosters are full then you can only make 13 picks. And FTR not that anyone cares but, I would like to close the IFA roster loophole and go with what Chris posted.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2014 22:27:26 GMT -5
According to the poll you were correct and it was the ASB, but that doesn't defeat the purpose of having limits on the number of MiLB players anyone can have. What am I missing here? Okay, with the answer from TRC Yanks I guess I'm on track. And FTR I would like to close the IFA roster loophole and go with what Chris posted. What IFA loophole?
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