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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2011 9:51:35 GMT -5
Some of these playoff teams are pretty close. Could maybe see some category standings at 8 to 8 after Sunday. What do we do in case of tie?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2011 12:07:19 GMT -5
Highest seed in the playoffs?
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Post by St. Louis Cardinals (Andrew) on Aug 13, 2011 19:55:42 GMT -5
It should be highest seeded team goes through
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Post by St. Louis Cardinals (Andrew) on Oct 10, 2011 23:08:44 GMT -5
I refer to Royals comment on Angels roster :
Koji Uehera stands to make 4 mil in 2012
Roy Oswalt has a 16 mil club option for 2012 so that should be estimated unless it has been stated that the Phils are not going to exercise it, I think they probably will.
Please correct your roster to reflect this.
with that being the case, if you add Oswalt's hidden $9M to make his real salary of $16M plus the three guys hidden away in the minors also making $1M but not being included anywhere, the Angels' salary should be $201M - $5M over cap.
This leads me to my questions …
1. MLB guys on Minors rosters, I thought we had to include their salaries ? These three guys don’t seem to be included.
2. Angels has 2 bids out there for $1M each on two guys (can’t remember their names). Surely you can’t bid for new players when you are already over your cap ?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2011 19:54:17 GMT -5
You don't have to pay guys that make 1 mil if they are in the minors. We could change this to be if were ever on your MLB roster and then demoted you still have to pay them but as of now the rule is only guys that make 2 mil or more can be stored in the minors. So while it is kind of weird and shady, that is technically operating within the rules as of now.
As far as being able to bid 1 mil if you are at or over cap, that's a good question. I'm not sure how to proceed with that. Technically many many teams in the league might be in that position if we did a 2012 estimation. We'll have to discuss/think about that one.
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Post by St. Louis Cardinals (Andrew) on Oct 13, 2011 0:51:38 GMT -5
Fair enough on the payments to Minors guys. I always thought that if they had a MLB salary then we had to add them to our MLB salaries. Prospects obviously don't get included as they don't have a MLB salary.
I think we should probably set a date by which we MUST start using 2012 salaries and a date up to which we MUST continue to use 2011 salaries.
I don't mean to pick on Angels but we'll use him as an example. Through "creative assimptions" we can make it look like we all have stacks of cash so we can go out & bid on new players (or trade for players we don't have the cap for) and worry about the salary implications later.
I would suggest something like 31st December as a change over date. From that date onwards, if they have signed a 2012 contract we MUST use that salary. If they do not have a 2012 contract then we MUST use the 2011 number. No creative assumptions. Simple facts. Same with free agents, until they have signed a new deal and the year by year numbers are posted on Cots, the 2011 contract price is their salary. Lock it in ... cut out the assumptions.
Same with Arbitration ... let's not guess amounts. If you want to be a responsible owner for your franchise you can plan for a rise (for example I have planned for a rise on Miguel Montero as he is due for arbitration this year. He made $3.2M in 2011 and I have planned for $6M in 2012 - hopefully guessing on the high side). If you want to be irresponsible you can just stick to the 2011 number, put your head in the sand and worry about the salary cap implications later.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2011 1:07:05 GMT -5
I think we should probably set a date by which we MUST start using 2012 salaries and a date up to which we MUST continue to use 2011 salaries. I would suggest something like 31st December as a change over date. From that date onwards, if they have signed a 2012 contract we MUST use that salary. If they do not have a 2012 contract then we MUST use the 2011 number. No creative assumptions. Simple facts. Same with free agents, until they have signed a new deal and the year by year numbers are posted on Cots, the 2011 contract price is their salary. Lock it in ... cut out the assumptions. Same with Arbitration ... let's not guess amounts. If you want to be a responsible owner for your franchise you can plan for a rise (for example I have planned for a rise on Miguel Montero as he is due for arbitration this year. He made $3.2M in 2011 and I have planned for $6M in 2012 - hopefully guessing on the high side). If you want to be irresponsible you can just stick to the 2011 number, put your head in the sand and worry about the salary cap implications later. This is exactly what we did last year, the date was much closer to opening day though. I think it was somethere in the middle of March if I remember right. That way all the late free agent and arbitation cases were done for the most part and most prices were accurate for 2012. Ideally all owners will keep updating their rosters to try and make them as close to expectations for 2012 throughout the offseason as possible. I think Angels did his 2012 estimation thinking it was going to free up money for him, surprise--didn't work. I think this will be the case for most teams, get a price break on a few guys but generally speaking salaries go up and up and up. Part of the fun! |
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Post by St. Louis Cardinals (Andrew) on Oct 13, 2011 1:22:12 GMT -5
aint that the truth. My Org roster shows me having heaps of cap space but my estimations have me with $2M to spare. Hopefully I have guessed on the high side and end up $5M cap space like I did this year.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2011 8:43:37 GMT -5
What is the rule on dropping players during the offseason? And if we have to pay 50% what do we pay if there salary was $1Mil and we drop him?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2011 10:26:17 GMT -5
What is the rule on dropping players during the offseason? And if we have to pay 50% what do we pay if there salary was $1Mil and we drop him? You pay 50% of their salary until the end of the 2012 season for any player you drop that makes 2 million or more. Anyone that makes 1 million you can drop with no penalty. |
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Post by St. Louis Cardinals (Andrew) on Nov 7, 2011 16:48:41 GMT -5
Can I ask why we aren't auto skipping White Sox ?
I see he likes to pick his own players but he has held up the draft for 24 hours with this pick, he held us up for 35 hours with pick 86, 48 hours with pick 74 and 19 hours for pick 73 (yes, that's right, he had back to back picks, took 19 hours to pick the first then disappeared and stopped the draft for ANOTHER two days before he picked the second of back to back picks !!!!).
Surely this guy should just be on auto skip so the draft doesn't stop for a full day every time he comes up.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2011 16:56:37 GMT -5
Can I ask why we aren't auto skipping White Sox ? I see he likes to pick his own players but he has held up the draft for 24 hours with this pick, he held us up for 35 hours with pick 86, 48 hours with pick 74 and 19 hours for pick 73 (yes, that's right, he had back to back picks, took 19 hours to pick the first then disappeared and stopped the draft for ANOTHER two days before he picked the second of back to back picks !!!!). Surely this guy should just be on auto skip so the draft doesn't stop for a full day every time he comes up. Yeah, sorry White Sox are on the autopick list now. I kinda spaced off on the draft today. On a related note I am going on vacation starting on Thursday so we will need Dodgers or someone else to be the draft MC, do all the autopicking etc etc. |
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Post by St. Louis Cardinals (Andrew) on Nov 10, 2011 0:28:36 GMT -5
I am sure this is covered somewhere, I just can't seem to find it right now.
I have 11 picks and 13 slots on my rookie roster. When the draft is finished, can I pick up two players that were drafted in the 2011 draft and add them to my Rookie roster ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2011 11:12:10 GMT -5
Yes, once the draft is over any team can fill their rookie roster with draftees.
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Post by drewfull on Feb 7, 2012 12:07:01 GMT -5
A little confused with the outcome of all the MLB players in Milb affiliate discussion so wanted to ask; in the case of John Lackey ($15M salary, not expected to pitch in 2013 due to Tommy John) are my options as follows?
1) Drop, pay $7M penalty in 2012
2) stash in minors/DL, pay full $15M
3) keep in majors, pay full $15M
or (written while fervently crossing fingers) do I have the option of stashing him in the minors without a salary hit because he's not expected to play in 2012 at all?
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Post by rangers on Feb 7, 2012 12:09:55 GMT -5
you are correct in your 3 options
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Post by Cincinnati Reds - Chris on Jan 27, 2013 21:42:33 GMT -5
Has the league ever discussed changing Hits as a scoring category to Total Bases if its available in ESPN?
As it appears to me a base hit (single) is equivalent to a double and triple, which isn't really fair in player value.
Seeing as we're so close to the 2013 season I wouldn't pressure for it to take effect immediately. And obviously would need to go through a league vote.
Just looking for some good league discussion.
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Post by St. Louis Cardinals (Andrew) on Jan 28, 2013 1:00:06 GMT -5
I'd be all for it, I don't mind a bit of change to shake things up a little.
If we get more in agreeance maybe we should put up a poll and take a league wide vote. I'd be for changing it in 2013 rather than postponing it. We have to change the leagues up this year anyway with Astros moving to AL and so much discontent with the way the AL schedule was run last year.
what does everyone else think ?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2013 5:25:25 GMT -5
Noy in favor of that at all. Changing now, after three years of building our club in one direction, would be absurd, undoable. How could we possibly adjust?
There are many changes we could make -- like reducing roster sizes. Who ever heard of teams carrying ten or eleven SP, as do some clubs in this league. Lots of stuff is goofy... but that is what we had to work with, and we have all adjusted our rosters to those rules.
Here's a quick example: We have two guys who hit more than 20 HRs last season, one guy with more than 30; we are not a power club by design. Royals had seven who hit more than 20 last year and three who hit 30+.
We adjusted our roster to take advantage of other offensive traits. Going to total bases now would wipe us out, just when we traded away half our minors for the kinds of players who would permit us to be competitive now. How are we supposed to change the make-up of our club now? A change of rules now would favor those clubs who have built for slugging and power while undermining three years of some clubs building for the rules that are currently in place.
That would be too drastic a rules change.
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Post by Cincinnati Reds - Chris on Jan 28, 2013 9:06:18 GMT -5
No worries, just brought it up as a suggestion. I didn't mention touching HR's, so I don't know why that came into the conversation.
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