Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2014 22:23:36 GMT -5
espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/11880509/cuban-prospect-yoan-moncada-cleared-free-agencyCuban infielder Yoan Moncada, who left the country with the government's permission earlier this year, has been cleared by Major League Baseball to sign as a free agent...Moncada, 19,...Under the terms of the current collective bargaining agreement between MLB and the players' union, however, he will be treated as an amateur free agent rather than a professional, as Yasiel Puig and Jose Abreu were.So when he signs does his amateur status make him an IFA bid over aTPB bid because he will under the international bonus pool regulations?
|
|
|
|
Post by St. Louis Cardinals (Andrew) on Nov 17, 2014 22:26:11 GMT -5
I must admit I don't get most of that "treated as ..." stuff. When he signs it will say whether it is counted against their IFA Pool or not, that will be the deciding factor.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2014 22:27:31 GMT -5
espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/11880509/cuban-prospect-yoan-moncada-cleared-free-agencyCuban infielder Yoan Moncada, who left the country with the government's permission earlier this year, has been cleared by Major League Baseball to sign as a free agent...Moncada, 19,...Under the terms of the current collective bargaining agreement between MLB and the players' union, however, he will be treated as an amateur free agent rather than a professional, as Yasiel Puig and Jose Abreu were.So when he signs does his amateur status make him an IFA bid over aTPB bid because he will under the international bonus pool regulations? I vote IFA since that's how MLB is treating it. Cards or Mariners to confirm? |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2014 22:28:04 GMT -5
It's counting against the IFA pool in MLB. I know this because the Cubs cannot sign him if he goes for over 300K.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2014 22:44:25 GMT -5
I tend to agree with you...not sure if that's good or bad.
If this is going to be a new trend it could make things more interesting. I don't have the knowledge some of you have but isn't this the first amateur to come out of Cuba, at least with their consent?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2014 22:49:45 GMT -5
Yeah it's a weird situation where they actually let him leave legally. He's counting against the international bonus pool in MLB, so should be IFA here.
|
|
|
|
Post by WhiteSox on Nov 17, 2014 22:53:40 GMT -5
Only issue I have with this is from reading about the guy is many think that he would contend as the number 1 pick if he were in the draft.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2014 22:58:04 GMT -5
With the rules in place, he would be bid on with IFA money, but it's a tricky situation since he might gets 40 million dollar contract.
|
|
|
|
Post by WhiteSox on Nov 17, 2014 22:58:54 GMT -5
Yeah that part confused me as well lol
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2014 23:05:26 GMT -5
I feel like the best solution might be to have this guy be bid on with tpb dollars, but can be bought out with IFA or maybe wait till the next bonus pool of dollars is given to everyone. I think this guy might need to be a exception.
|
|
|
|
Post by WhiteSox on Nov 17, 2014 23:11:22 GMT -5
I mean he's even an exception in real life. He is going to count against the IFA pool but he is going to sign a significant contract after
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2014 23:24:23 GMT -5
I feel like the best solution might be to have this guy be bid on with tpb dollars, but can be bought out with IFA or maybe wait till the next bonus pool of dollars is given to everyone. I think this guy might need to be a exception. I don't see how this is an issue at all. He's bid on with IFA dollars and then you get stuck with his MLB contract when he signs that.....just like every other IFA except on a reduced timeline. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2014 23:37:15 GMT -5
The contract he signs will be his mlb contract right or is it all bonus?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2014 23:42:06 GMT -5
Only issue I have with this is from reading about the guy is many think that he would contend as the number 1 pick if he were in the draft. Why would that be an issue...the same thing could have been said about some kid in the Dominican Republic like Sano who now would fall under the IFA. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2014 23:46:39 GMT -5
The contract he signs will be his mlb contract right or is it all bonus? I don't know if it matters but I thought I read where he wasn't eligible to sign a major league contract, but I don't understand why he couldn't since drafted player can. |
|
|
|
Post by St. Louis Cardinals (Andrew) on Nov 17, 2014 23:47:54 GMT -5
from what I read, he should fall under IFA but I'd like to wait until he signs and see.
As for waiting until next bonus pool dollars are given out, sorry but no. Those who have kept a stash of $$$ may get a bargain here due to lack of competition. Bidding starts as soon as he signs as per normal.
|
|
|
|
Post by WhiteSox on Nov 17, 2014 23:57:41 GMT -5
I really don't like that for a player of this caliber...
|
|
|
|
Post by WhiteSox on Nov 17, 2014 23:58:05 GMT -5
Reminds me of the James Paxton situation in a sense
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2014 0:05:35 GMT -5
The contract he signs will be his mlb contract right or is it all bonus? In last month’s article I detailed the odd situation that Moncada finds himself in due to the CBA’s two-year-old rules about international bonus pools. Due to his age and lack of professional experience, Moncada is subject to these pools, unlike free-and-clear free agents from Cuba such as Jose Abreu, Rusney Castillo and current free agent Yasmany Tomas. This means that Moncada can only sign for a signing bonus and can’t sign a big league contract. These bonus pools range from roughly $2 million to $5 million, ordered the same as the raw order for the 2015 MLB Draft, and any dollar spent over 15% above the pool amount has a dollar-for-dollar penalty, plus it triggers a two-year freeze on international signings over $300,000. |
|
|
|
Post by WhiteSox on Nov 18, 2014 0:43:50 GMT -5
|
|
