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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2014 1:15:03 GMT -5
This is a tough one. My gut when I first read it when they compared him to Yasiel Puig and Jose Abreu made me think he should be bid on with actual TPB dollars because isn't that what was done with Puig and JA? And we said the big-time potential studs that came along would be bid on with actual dollars not IFA funny money right? Is this guy supposed to be an elite player along the lines of Darvish, Abreu, etc?
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Post by BrewCrewGM on Nov 18, 2014 1:57:50 GMT -5
I say real money. He's a stud prospect. Soler-like in that he's a huge Cuban prospect that is going to be in the minors for some time.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2014 2:21:39 GMT -5
This is a tough one. My gut when I first read it when they compared him to Yasiel Puig and Jose Abreu made me think he should be bid on with actual TPB dollars because isn't that what was done with Puig and JA? And we said the big-time potential studs that came along would be bid on with actual dollars not IFA funny money right? Is this guy supposed to be an elite player along the lines of Darvish, Abreu, etc? I don't think the determination of IFA vs TPB should be based on subjectivity like, "Well out of 10 how much stud is he?" We should mirror the MLB and bid on him with IFA money and then, like with all IFA's, when he signs his MLB contract that's the contract his TPB salary is based off of. The difference in Puig, Abreu, Soler, Darvish, etc is the IFA Pool didn't exist in the MLB at the time and/or they had enough professional service to bypass it and get bid on by MLB Contracts as a Free Agent. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2014 3:49:37 GMT -5
Both of your linked sources reference this link sports.yahoo.com/news/meet-the-latest-cuban-sensation-who-could-change-the-game-003916654.html by Jeff Passan. From bleacher report: According to Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports, Moncada is expected to receive $30 to $40 million, putting him in the same range as fellow Cubans Yoenis Cespedes ($36 million) and Yasiel Puig ($42 million). The only difference is that Moncada’s age and lack of professional experience will make him an amateur international free agent and therefore subject to international spending restrictions.From on base talk: MLB clubs and could command a deal worth between $30 and $40 million, industry officials told Jeff Passan of Yahoo! Sports. This from Jeff Passion @ Yahoo: Two general managers and two other officials familiar with Moncada and Cuban baseball this week all agreed on the expected price once he hits the market: between $30 million and $40 million. While that’s close to what the similarly aged Puig ($42 million) and the Cubs' Jorge Soler ($30 million) received, the circumstances for Moncada are entirely different than when Puig and Soler signed in 2012.Under baseball’s current collective-bargaining agreement, international free agents under 23 years old with fewer than five years’ experience in a professional league fall under the purview of MLB’s international bonus pool.www.fangraphs.com/blogs/yoan-moncada-the-most-fascinating-piece-of-the-offseason/An Interesting Set of CircumstancesIn last month’s article I detailed the odd situation that Moncada finds himself in due to the CBA’s two-year-old rules about international bonus pools. Due to his age and lack of professional experience, Moncada is subject to these pools, unlike free-and-clear free agents from Cuba such as Jose Abreu, Rusney Castillo and current free agent Yasmany Tomas. This means that Moncada can only sign for a signing bonus and can’t sign a big league contract. I don't think anyone is saying he will not get a ridiculous amount of money. Just that the signing bonus will be absurdly high. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2014 8:33:38 GMT -5
For what it's worth, he probably won't sign until new IFA money comes out anyway. He still hasn't been cleared by OFAC.
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Post by Arizona Diamondbacks on Nov 22, 2014 11:57:42 GMT -5
My two cents would be to say IFA and then when he's on a MLB contract, that's his contract here.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 11:27:41 GMT -5
I must admit I don't get most of that "treated as ..." stuff. When he signs it will say whether it is counted against their IFA Pool or not, that will be the deciding factor. Just stumbled across this while looking for something else. Based on this Ohtani should have been IFA, just sayin' |
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